You’re reading your Bible and praying throughout the day and yet God still doesn’t feel close. If it’s not a discipline problem, it’s got to be something else.

In this episode, we’re talking about why creativity, obedience, and joy are not things you manufacture. They are what happens when you feel truly safe with God. We talk honestly about striving, what your body is trying to tell you, and what it looks like to let God hold you in the middle of a big dream. Come, listen and learn from Kari Eliza, the voice behind Held Right Here.